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The Global Leadership Network’s premier two-day leadership event of the year has been held annually in August for the last 25+ years. Recognized as one of the largest leadership events of its kind, The Global Leadership Summit (GLS) brings leaders and aspiring leaders together from around the world. Through the GLS, many of these leaders gain something far more than leadership insights—they gain a new understanding for what God is inviting them to do through their lives—they discover the spark within them waiting to be fanned to flame.

This is what happened when N. Ford attended the GLS for the first time with her dad and brother. “Although I’ve always had an interest and curiosity around transformative leadership, being the young female of the group, I wasn’t sure the GLS was targeted for me,” said N. Ford. “But it didn’t take long to realize the Summit is for everyone—even me.”

A Journey Toward a Grander Vision

Yet, while the event was inspirational and moving, what happened through N. Ford’s experience led her on a journey of discovering the grander vision God already sparked within her, one she didn’t even fully recognize at first. “I left my first Summit with a notebook full of scribbled ideals I wanted to remember and leverage over the coming year,” said N. Ford. “What happened though, is what happens to many of us when we hear from highly successful, high-achieving, greatly inspirational people—we get overwhelmed. Ideas, inspiration, and vision turn into paralysis and eventually fizzle out. And although all that happened, it didn’t stop me from attending the GLS the following year, or the one after that.”

With faithful persistence and openness to what God had in store, N. Ford kept exploring. “In August of 2015, I had a relationship end, a job end, and I was out of resources,” said N. Ford. “It was in that mess that the Lord asked me to write, and He gave me a story. I was faithful to start it, but when it got hard, I quit. I started again, but that time I didn’t get much encouragement from others. I tried again and couldn’t maintain the grit it took to keep at it.”

A Dangerous Prayer

At her wits end, N. Ford had an experience at the Summit in 2019 that changed the trajectory of her journey. “The overall theme of the GLS that year held a consistent tone for vision,” said N. Ford. “‘Leaders need vision,’ I wrote down several times in my notebook. I kept pacing back and forth, praying. I kept saying, ‘Lord, I don’t have vision. How can I lead well if I don’t have vision? I’ll do anything you want me to do. Take my life. Give me vision.’ That’s a dangerous prayer!”

This is the part of the story where you would think God gave N. Ford a grander vision. But it’s not. In fact, it’s the moment where God reminded N. Ford of the vision she already had. “I didn’t get a vision from the Lord after I prayed that prayer,” said N. Ford. “I got a word of conviction. ‘You don’t need vision, child. I already gave you a vision. You just haven’t done it.’

Conviction to Press On

These words humbled N. Ford. “At the moment in which I received those convicting words, I considered my failure to meet His vision. Instead of having written what He gave me in 2015, I had 13 writing projects open, not one of them complete,” said N. Ford. “More than anything, He was calling me to obedience. Most painfully, the story He had given me and asked me to write in 2015 had been sitting unattended the longest. That year, at the Summit in 2019, I committed to have that one story completed by the time I returned to the Summit in 2020.”

In August of 2020, N. Ford finished the first book in what has become a fiction trilogy! By the Summit in 2021, she had a signed a contract to publish the first book. In February 2022, while sitting at the GLS: Special Edition, N. Ford was weeks away from having her debut fiction novel, The Refuge, published!

God’s Perfect Timing

Back in in 2015, when N. Ford first felt called to write about division, reconciliation, racial relationships and unity, hierarchal authority, and the value of human life, she never could have planned for God’s perfect timing in the publishing of her first book. “As the pandemic and the last few years of great conflict have transpired, I have been in awe at the relevance of the story He wrote long before it ever came upon my heart,” said N. Ford. “I don’t know if anyone will like it. And I don’t know if anyone will buy it, but honestly, I don’t care. It was never about writing a book, it was about the consistent, gritty, broken road to perpetual obedience. He sanctified me in the process of un-applauded, unseen obedience to His vision.

“Oswald Chambers writes that we pray for a call on our lives from the moment we know we can, and then when we receive it, it becomes a haunting ghost until it’s attended. That is the truth of this story. Sometimes He doesn’t give us a new, grand vision. Sometimes we must open our eyes, ears, hearts, and wills to the one He’s already spoken to us. It may not be the one we thought. And it most certainly will not be easy. But it’s His.”

“Bob Goff says you don’t have to cross the ocean to do God’s work. Sometimes you just have to cross the street. I just had to open a laptop. The road of obedience is not easy, and it’s usually unseen and un-applauded. It took me longer than it should have to obey the vision He gave me, but the GLS helped me have the clarity and the courage to commit to it.”

Welcome to TRB! Please give our readers a brief introduction about yourself before we begin. 

I am a life-long learner who hopes to continue to learn new skills, have dynamic experiences, study other cultures, and continue in formal education.  I need physical movement nearly all the time, and ideally outside.  I love to be at the sea, or in the mountains, or exploring somewhere new.  I start every day in a Bible and end every day with exercise.  I like nothing more than to be with family and friends, but a day under a tree with my dog, my guitar, and a notebook is also a day well spent. 

Please tell us something about your book other than what we have read in the blurb?

The entire idea for the book was formulated in 2015, and once I really got started in 2019, it felt like it wrote itself.  Interestingly enough, the majority of the theming centers around war, unity, and race relations – subjects that became highly relevant in the wake of 2020, 2021, and 2022.  It’s my great hope that the messages of unity and human value can seep into our current cultural events in impactful ways. 

What is that one message that you’re trying to get across to the readers in this book?

More than any other, the primary message of the novel is the value of human life.  We humans represent a beautiful and dynamic amalgamation of shapes, sizes, colors, ethnicities, capabilities, backgrounds, nationalities, experiences, etc.  This story celebrates our differences while highlighting our similarities.  We need each other.  And everyone brings a unique value.  That’s the primary message here. 

Who is your favourite character in this book and why?

I read somewhere that as an author, there’s a part of you in every character.  Knowing the truth of that, it’s hard to choose a favorite.  I love Jude’s drive toward meaning and his desire to do something purposeful with his life.  I admire Mae’s simple and immoveable nature, along with her love for her people.  I desire to have Matthew’s curious and independent mind, and Faith’s courageous spirit.  I relate to Jonathan’s heart and respect his iron will to do the right thing even though it hurts him deeply.  I want to lead like Issachar, dream like Eden, and rejoice like Jackson. 

What inspired you to write this book? An idea, some anecdote, a dream or something else?

For me, life is driven by faith.  This project is no different.  This story was placed on my heart to tell, and I did my best to tell it without letting my own voice get in the way. 

How long did it take you to write this particular book?

I wrote the first words to this book on August 15, 2015.  After receiving discouragement at the first try, I gave it a rest for a while.  I had a few successive failures to launch over the next few years and finally dedicated myself to writing it with new strategies and tactics in place.  That was in August of 2019.  By August of 2020, the novel was complete, along with an outline for the rest of the trilogy.  From the first words on a page to publication – it took 6 years and 9 months.  The second in the trilogy will publish at the end of 2023, and as for book three – well, we’ll see.  

What is your writing ritual? How do you do it?

This novel was written at a time when I was juggling a full-time job, graduate school, and multiple community service opportunities.  It was highly challenging some days to achieve the ritual I committed to completing.  Nevertheless, day after day I would work my job, do the tasks assigned from graduate school, and then force myself to walk to the coffee shops in my near vicinity to write until I couldn’t anymore.  Sometimes this was no longer than twenty minutes.  Sometimes it lasted for hours. 

What I was able to identify that was crucial to my writing process was that I needed music playing in headphones (I chose tracks for this by Audiomachine, John Paesano, Ivan Torrent, Gustavo Santaolalla, etc.).  I also identified that I had to be somewhere that was a dedicated space for writing.  In my home, I had one chair for writing – I used it for no other purpose.  I also selected several coffee shops or cafes that were my ‘writing spaces’.  I didn’t socialize there or do any other work there – only writing.  The psychological and physical separation of these places for writing helped me make progress day after day in ways that I don’t think would have been as successful otherwise.

How do you prefer to write – computer/laptop, typewriter, dictation or longhand with a pen?

My writing process starts with a pen and a notebook.  Outlines turn into chapter synopses (still in pen and paper form), and once the chapter synopses are complete, I move to a laptop. 

What are your 5 favourite books? (You can share 5 favourite authors too.)

Frances J. Roberts is a long-lasting favorite author.  She writes truth with beauty, poetry, and rhythm.  It’s truly unique and distinctly beautiful.  My favorite title by her is Come Away, My Beloved.

For gorgeous and descriptive fiction, Charles Martin is a go-to.  When Crickets Cry among others are true works of art. 

How do you deal with Writer’s Block?

I do something else.  I walk away, go work out, spend time with family and friends.  Play some music, work on something else.  There’s a separation that must happen for me.  I try not to let it bother me and try again the next day. 

What advice would you give to aspiring writers?

I would tell aspiring writers to do everything they can to not strive for a story.  Let the story come to you.  Let it call out to you instead of you striving to create something that you think may be unique or may sell.  The more you can let your experience be about the story you were created to tell instead of the story you think you should tell, the better it will go for you.